Saturday, June 28, 2014

The traditional doctrine on hell as eternal conscious torment is false. The "second death" is annihilation.


Does the Bible truly teach that those who do not inherit eternal life will be subject to never-ending conscious torment?   Of course, the predominant traditional view in "mainstream" Christianity is yes.  But we are not to blindly follow traditions of men, no matter how popular they may be.  We are to follow the Scriptures only.  Upon a substantive examination of the Scriptures, there is no basis for the traditional doctrine.  What the Bible truly teaches is that the righteous inherit eternal life, while the wicked are totally and permanently destroyed. 


1.  The penalty of sin is death, not eternal torment.  The opposite of eternal life is permanent death/destruction, not "eternal life in concious torment".

2.  A punishment of eternal concious torment is against the nature of the Creator.  The false doctrine of never-ending torment for the damned makes the Heavenly Father out to be merciless, unjust, and a monstrous sadist.

3.  A punishment of eternal conscious torment is too harsh for the crime. It is not proportionate to the offense.  A limited and relatively "small" number of sins in our short/temporary lives does not justify unimaginably horrific unending torment.

4.  The Messiah did not teach a doctrine of eternal concious torment.  He taught that the wicked would be destroyed.  And the "soul" is not immortal.  Rather, it can be destroyed (see Matthew 10:28 below).

Matthew 7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Luke 13:3: I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

5.  "Everlasting destruction" means permanent destruction, not that the "destroying goes on forever."  For example, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by the "vengeance of eternal fire" (Jude 1:7 ).

6. The Book of Revelation is a vision given to the Apostle John. As such, the imagery is mostly symbolic, and not to be taken literally. Therefore, the language about the "lake of fire" in which the wicked are destroyed is not necessarily literal.

7.  The English word "hell" in the Bible is translated 10 times in the New Testament from the Greek word "Gehenna" (a ravine where trash was burned outside of Jerusalem), 60 times in the Old Testament from the Hebrew word "Sheol" (which means grave or pit), and a few times in the New Testament from the Greek word "Hades" (the equivalent of the Hebrew "Sheol" meaning the grave or intermediary resting place between physical death and the resurrection).

8.  The story of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) is a PARABLE, meaning it is not to be taken literally.

9. The language in Revelation of "where their worm does not die", "the fire is not quenched", and "the smoke of their torment goes up forever" harkens back to language in the Old Testament.  For example, Malachi 4:1 states that the "Day of the Lord" will "burn like a furnace", and the wicked "will be as ashes".  Isaiah 66:22-24 speaks of the rotting corpses of the enemies of the Creator as having "worms that die not" (referring to maggots), and "fire that cannot be quenched" (meaning that no man can stop the consuming fire and punishment of "God").  It doesn't mean that the corpses of the wicked who are destroyed are still "consiously alive with worms tormenting them and fire continually burning."  Isaiah 34:9-10 speaks of  the destruction of Edom with sulfer/brimstone, with "smoke rising forever", which "will not be quenched day nor night".  This doesn't mean that the the destruction of Edom (the land occupied by the descendants of Esau to the immediate southeast of Judea) is literally still ongoing. 

10.  Revelation 20:10 refers to the devil, the Beast, and the false prophet as being "tormented day and night for ever and ever", not all human beings who are damned.  And the Book of Revelation is a vision given to the Apostle John, which is largely symbolic and not to be taken literally.  Also, the word "ever" in "for ever" in English is translated from the Greek word "aion", which can mean "age", or a period of time of limited duration. 

11.  The Creator cannot tolerate evil in his presence (at least not forever).   Therefore, why would he give eternal life to the wicked...ie, allowing them to be alive for eternity being tormented?  It makes sense (just based upon this line of reasoning) that the Creator would want to totally annihilate the presence of evil.

12.  In 2 Peter 3:7, it states regarding the "Day of the Lord" that "By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."   The word "destruction" here in 2 Peter 3:7 in English is translated from Strong's Greek word #684, "apōleia", which means "utter destruction".

10 comments:

SerbdomFighter said...

It's good that you realized that the bible doesn't teach about a "hell". The hell which we know is of Greek pagan origin, from underworld of Hades.

SerbdomFighter said...

Do you think that the punishment could be that you stay as ghost in this world? There are so many claims about "ghosts" and poltergeists. Although most of these videos about ghosts are fake, I need to admit that I saw some paranormal things several times. Maybe those things that I saw can be explained, but you never know.

SoldierofYah said...

^ Hello Serbdom Fighter. I don't believe that ghosts or poltergeists are deceased humans. Rather, I think they are probably demonic activity.

I'm still having problems being accepted as a reader to your blog. I might be doing something wrong, but I can't figure out how to be accepted. Maybe it's blogger's fault. I will keep trying though. Maybe you should consider opening your blog back up to all readers.

Anyway, take care friend.

SerbdomFighter said...

Well, everything is possible. I think the bible has the answers (the story of refusal of Yahshua to expell the demon from the Canaanite girl).Although I believe in demons, I don't think they look like they are portrayed in mainstream media, creaturs with animal heads.

It's because you didn't accept the invitation yet. I sent an invitation to your e-mail address which you gave me to your last e-mail. Do you use this e-mail for blogger? If not, then say me which e-mail address you use for blogger and I send an invitation. I blocked my website in order to reform it, some of my articles are a bit too "cheap" written.

SoldierofYah said...

I didn't seen an invitation sent to that email address. If you would, please try re-sending the invitation (to lonewolf2879@gmail.com). Thanks.

Also, all of the articles I have seen on your website are well-written, in my opinion. What's more important is that the information get out to the wider world.

SerbdomFighter said...

Ok, I sent an invitation to this e-mail address. Do you use this e-mail for blogger?

You are right, but I observed that Americans and Brits respect professional-written articles, therefore I think it's better to write like a professional researcher, especially as a non-English native speaker.

BTW, why don't you post on NFA forum anymore? It's almost dead there, but the good thing is that this clown "Helmsdale" doesn't post anymore, he actually turned to a hippy-leftist (labelling "far rights" as sexually frustrated).

SoldierofYah said...

SerbdomFighter, I got your latest email with the invitation, and am now able to read your blog. Thanks. I think the problem was that either I never received a previous email with an invitation, or I lost it. Either way, I could never find one before.

I don't post at NFA because the traffic is so very low. It's still an excellent idea though. We need forums with true freedom of speech. Hopefully, we can get more people to join the forum.

SerbdomFighter said...

I saw your comment and wanted to ask you which e-mail address do you use for blogger? The one which you mentioned in our conversation via e-mail? I think it's better for you that you can enter into my blog with your blogger account. I will send a new invitation.

NFA has many new members, but most of them don't post. There were some active members, one of them is a British CI guy, very smart one. The problem is that we have a Jewish member who talked about cultural struggle against Cultural Marxism, while races (according to him) are irrevelant.

SoldierofYah said...

I can no longer access my old email account (a yahoo account) that I created my blogger account with. So I guess I'll just have to access your blog with my gmail account. Maybe I'll create another blogger account with this gmail account.

SerbdomFighter said...

I think you can change the e-mail of your blogger, I did it as well. However, if you have a new e-mail address of blogger, then let me know it.