Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Karl Rove to Tea Party: "Ditch the cranks and conspiracy nuts" - Tea Party to Turd Blossom: "Conspiracy Nuts" Founded this Party, Your Day is Done

Rove: Tea Party groups must cut off cranks

Published: Feb. 18, 2010

WASHINGTON, Feb. 18 (UPI) -- The U.S. tea party movement must separate itself from "cranks and conspiracy nuts," Republican pundit Karl Rove said Thursday in an opinion piece.

Rove, President George W. Bush's deputy chief of staff and chief political adviser, also said the movement and the Republican Party should not join forces.

"The tea party movement will be more effective than it otherwise would be if it refuses to allow itself to become an appendage of either major political party," Rove said in an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal.

Rove warned the movement could be co-opted by third parties. He said the leadership includes a "small fraction" of people frustrated by failing to win office in the Democratic or Republican parties.

"If tea party groups are to maximize their influence on policy, they must now begin the difficult task of disassociating themselves from cranks and conspiracy nuts," he said. "This includes 9/11 deniers, 'birthers' who insist Barack Obama was not born in the U.S., and militia supporters espousing something vaguely close to armed rebellion."

ATTN Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and other neo-con Establishment hacks: 9/11 truthers and right-wing Militia types founded the Tea Party.

Independents and Tea Party a "small fraction"?? Oh, like how the overwhelming majority of Massachusetts voters in the election a few weeks ago were registered Independents? The Sheeple are abandoning the Republicans/Democrats, and are awake to NWO/Establishment shenanigans.

So STFU, and GTFO. Your time is running out.

Oh, and Ron Paul...that goes for you too...peddler of the 9/11 official story. We know you're a fraud and Judas Goat. And where did all that money bomb money go?


Teresa said...

I wouldn't call Tea Partiers a small fraction. But, I would call conspiracy theorists and the people who are out there (overboard nuts in other ways) in the far extreme fringe an extremely small minority of Tea Party participants.

I agree with Rove that the Tea Party movementshouldn't promote a third party. The main goal should be to replace RINOS and Dems in 2010 and Obama in 2012, and a third party would go against that goal.

Lone Wolf said...

"But, I would call conspiracy theorists and the people who are out there (overboard nuts in other ways) in the far extreme fringe an extremely small minority of Tea Party participants


Are you aware that a 2006 ScrippsNews poll found that 36% of Americans believe the Government is lying about 9/11, covering up the truth, and therefore involved/complicit? Here is the poll.

That was about 3 and a half years ago. The percentage is certainly higher now...probably 45-55%....maybe higher.

Is that a "lunatic fringe"? Are 50% of the country nuts...or could it be that there REALLY is a problem with the "official" 9/11 story?

For starters, how about considering the issue of WTC Building 7, a 47-story building which collapsed at around 5pm on 9/11 at virtual free-fall speed. This building was not hit by a plane or damaged by falling debris in such a way as to collapse.

The collapse of WTC 7 is SMOKING GUN evidence of controlled demolition of the building. The twin towers were also brought down using explosives.

Here is video of WTC 7 collapse.

Anonymous said...

When people like Rove start dispensing advice to patriot groups, you know they are worried. And so they should be. There are a lot of angry Americans out there who are sick and tired of being screwed by 'their' government and who have had enough.

We don't have anything like the Tea Party over here in the United Kikedom, and I don't think we ever will either. Joe and Josephine Brit are too pre-occupied with getting pissed, and with watching Sky Sports, soap operas and the X-Factor to be bothered with paltry issues like taking their country from the criminals who have stolen it.

Lone Wolf said...

^Interesting video Fugazi. The guy makes a good point about how the media is sort of burying the story.

It's a little curious. I figured the Establishment might push a lot more for labeling the guy a "domestic terrorist" and making a move against "right-wing domestic terrorists."

I think the reason they aren't doing that is because they know that MANY Americans (perhaps even a majority) are actually sympathetic to what Joe Stack did, hate the IRS/Government with a passion, and are Fed Up.

Since the neo-cons are going to be unsuccessful at attempting to destroy the Tea Party movement by hijacking it, neutralize it, and absorbing it into the republiCON party...they are attempting to demonize it as a "bunch of conspiracy cranks."

Not going to work.

The "conspiracy nuts" are quickly on the way to being the majority.

Reichsmarshal said...

So, what this treasonous pile of sludge is really saying is "ignore that man behind the curtain, get your minds back on jewthink, and vote for us no matter what, even though we will sell you out time and time again."

Teresa is one of these people who are held hostage by the republican't party. They fear democrap rule so much that they would enslave themselves to a treasonous party of sell outs for some empty promises that amount to nothing but a few paltry crumbs, when the reality is that the difference between the two is barely perceptible.

How does rewarding the same mediocre scoundrels cycle after cycle elicit true change? A third party, even if it destroys conservatism and ensures liberal victory is a necessary club to wield until the "business as usual" hacks either get it or get out.

Obongo is the greatest possible thing that could happen in terms of course correction(to the extent it's even possible at this point). With a McAmnesty presidency the kahn-servatives would be content with the mediocrity, there'd be no "tea parties" and no patriots flying planes into IRS buildings, and we'd just be putting off the inevitable.

Turdblossom and his Beltway cronies don't get to call the shots anymore.

Greg Bacon said...

At least Ron Paul is the only candidate to speak out against the Federal Reserve.

If you saw his talk at CPAC, when he mentioned that the Fed must go, the crowd went wild, chanting that phrase for a minute or two.

That's what's got TPTB scared, that people are waking up to the fact that the Fed is an out of control entity, run for the benefit of the private banking families that own that POS.

They don't want people to wake up and realize that if we took back control of our money supply, we could save ourselves at least 200 billion a year in interest payments.

Teresa, do yo believe everything the feds tell you?

If not, doesn't that make you a conspiracy theorist?

Lone Wolf said...

"With a McAmnesty presidency the kahn-servatives would be content with the mediocrity, there'd be no "tea parties" and no patriots flying planes into IRS buildings, and we'd just be putting off the inevitable."

Juan McAmnesty was the biggest joke who ever ran under the GOP. Ron Paul was CLEARLY the most popular candidate (based on real polling, record-breaking huge amounts of money taken in), but the Establishment rigged the primariy "voting", and installed Juan.

Ron Paul, the Judas Goat he is, squandered all the money bomb money (hardly even spending any of it on ads, etc), didn't raise a peep about the OBVIOUS vote fraud, and went along with the whole charade playing his part.

"At least Ron Paul is the only candidate to speak out against the Federal Reserve."

True. And destroying the Rothschild/Jewish cabal's power/control of the money supply is crucial to throwing off their power over our government in general.

However, generally speaking, that's what any good controlled-opposition must do -- ie, speak the truth on some key issues.

If I recall correctly, Paul is also kind of soft on illegal immigration -- saying in effect "it's not that big of a problem." How can real "anti-Establishment" candidate not be strongly against illegal immigration?

And talk is cheap. Obozo talked a big game about "ending the Iraq War", and look how fast he did a 180. It remains to be seen if Paul would REALLY "end the Fed."

And really think about it, how could Ron Paul not know that 9/11 is a false flag?? And you can't really argue it would be "political suicide" to admit the truth, as (demonstrated by the 2006 ScrippsNews poll mentioned above), a majority of the country probably now believes 9/11 was a false flag.

Teresa said...

I don't agree with the government. I hated the bailouts. The Fed should be dissolved. Government's screwy, but mainly because of Democrats and REpubs compromising with Dems. And, the fact is if it wasn't for government, the Cummunity Reinvestment Act, ACORN forcing and threatening bank employees families to lend loans that the bank employees (CEO's and Managers) darn well knew they were of lower economic means and knew that the people couldn't afford to pay back the loans, then Bush wouldn't have had a problem, period, and we wouldn't have had a financial meltdown.

If you think that the Republicans and Democrats are the same than I don't know what planet your living on?
Did the Republicans (an overwhelming majority) vote for Porkulus? NO.
Did Republicans vote for Cap & Trade? NO.

Did Republicans vote for Obamacare? NO.

The Democrats voted for taking more control and power over our lives, and the Republicans have been listening and standing on the side of the people.

Lone Wolf said...


I agree with you that the Republicans are better than the Democrats (with respect to their stated platforms and agenda). The Democrats are essentially marxists/communists, although they wouldn't publicly use that terminology to describe themselves.

The good thing about the Republicans is that they SAY they are in favor of small government, preserving civil liberties (eg, pro-2nd Amendment), and against illegal immigration, etc.

But here's where the rubber meets the road...you must look at the ACTIONS of the politicans/party...not merely what they SAY.

I used to be a hardcore republican, but I can't because of their track record. They consistently betray their constituents on the core issues.

For example, George W. Bush was proposing amnesty for illegals and for the 8 years he was in office and had a Republican-controlled Congress, they did VIRTUALLY NOTHING about illegal immigration...and illegal immigration SKYROCKETED.

Also, during that same time, the size and spending of the federal government EXPLODED...the national debt roughly doubled under George W. Bush.

While the Republicans and Democrats do differ in many respects, it is all "for show" in order to maintain the illusion that we really have a government that represents the peoples' interests.

Both parties are controlled by powerful elites behind the scenes (who are pushing a "New World Order" globalist agenda). This agenda calls for Big Government, destruction of national sovereignty, destruction of civil liberties, illegal immigration, war, etc.

That's why whether it's the Republicans or Democrats "in power", things stay essentially the same on the core issues -- eg, the Democrats continue the wars, the Republicans expand government and allow illegal immigration.

Anonymous said...

Watch this TV interview on Fox about 9/11.

Greg Bacon said...

Did the Republicans (an overwhelming majority) vote for Porkulus? NO.

The Rethugs were so bloated from feeding at the trough from eight years of saying YES to an ever increasing federal budget, they took some time off.

Repubs, Dems, it doesn't matter. One will rob you with a gun, the other, a knife.

If you think the Rethugs have suddenly developed a conscience and will return to being the party of small government, go ahead and vote those fools back into power, then grab yourselves a box of tissues, 'cause you'll need them to soak up the tears.

As for Ron Paul at least he's getting the message out about the Fed on a national platform.

How long do you think it would take to reach that many people by using blogs?

One Century or two?